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Additional Questions - Non Writeup Specific / Re: Best Exhaust ??
« on: December 14, 2007, 10:49:31 AM »
Exhaust is truly a matter of personal opinion and many liking one hate another that a whole other group of people like.
Are you 1.8T?
If so, I have Neuspeed with test pipe and love it.
I've heard Thermal Race live and like the sound but feel it's a little on the loud side. Thermal Street I've not heard but if keeps the tone of the Race and tones down some volume, I'd think it would be great. AWE and Thermal Street are supposedly identical.
Milltek is too quiet for me and sounds too close to stock. It does open up nicely as you lay on it, but quite honestly, too soft for me.
Neuspeed has nice purr at idle. Very deep. At WOT, it growls without any raspyness.
Drone is important to many since they have to drive the car every day and done want an annoying sound in the cabin while they drive.
I've heard some claim the Thermal does drone. The Neuspeed does only when under load. If cruising at normal highway speeds, it is pretty quiet.
I think one of my favorite exhausts is the APR (I've heard it live), but it's always so expensive. And if you really wat baller status, the MTM video I've heard is great, but that is REAL expensive.
As far as high-flow cat or test pipe.... I've run both. I wouldn't run anything but a Milltek personally on a stock turbo. The cell count is good and you won't get a CEL. The other common HFC options throw CELs, unless you are flashed with a chip that tells the ECU to ignore it.
I've run both the APR HFC and then APR test pipe on the APR stage 3+, and I like the test pipe. The sound does get a little louder. Some complain of smell with test pipe. I have not noticed any on mine and that may be something the stock guys get that I just don't have.
With that all said, if you are stock, a test pipe isn't going to do much for you. It was even shown that a HFC doesn't do anything for you. I ran an HFC when stock and didn't really notice much but a sound change, which of course makes it seem like you're faster... but it didn't pull any harder or anything in reality. As you add chipping or bigger turbos, going to HFC and then ultimately test pipe does make a noticable difference.
But I can't stress enough that concerning sound, one person's "Rice" is another's "Awesome".... so listen to as much video as you can on good speakers so you can hear the low end. And hear as many as you can live. A video on a computer usually doesn't cut it for what they really sound like. Many on the forums wil defend their own exhaust to the death. So you're going to get very opinionated answers.
Are you 1.8T?
If so, I have Neuspeed with test pipe and love it.
I've heard Thermal Race live and like the sound but feel it's a little on the loud side. Thermal Street I've not heard but if keeps the tone of the Race and tones down some volume, I'd think it would be great. AWE and Thermal Street are supposedly identical.
Milltek is too quiet for me and sounds too close to stock. It does open up nicely as you lay on it, but quite honestly, too soft for me.
Neuspeed has nice purr at idle. Very deep. At WOT, it growls without any raspyness.
Drone is important to many since they have to drive the car every day and done want an annoying sound in the cabin while they drive.
I've heard some claim the Thermal does drone. The Neuspeed does only when under load. If cruising at normal highway speeds, it is pretty quiet.
I think one of my favorite exhausts is the APR (I've heard it live), but it's always so expensive. And if you really wat baller status, the MTM video I've heard is great, but that is REAL expensive.
As far as high-flow cat or test pipe.... I've run both. I wouldn't run anything but a Milltek personally on a stock turbo. The cell count is good and you won't get a CEL. The other common HFC options throw CELs, unless you are flashed with a chip that tells the ECU to ignore it.
I've run both the APR HFC and then APR test pipe on the APR stage 3+, and I like the test pipe. The sound does get a little louder. Some complain of smell with test pipe. I have not noticed any on mine and that may be something the stock guys get that I just don't have.
With that all said, if you are stock, a test pipe isn't going to do much for you. It was even shown that a HFC doesn't do anything for you. I ran an HFC when stock and didn't really notice much but a sound change, which of course makes it seem like you're faster... but it didn't pull any harder or anything in reality. As you add chipping or bigger turbos, going to HFC and then ultimately test pipe does make a noticable difference.
But I can't stress enough that concerning sound, one person's "Rice" is another's "Awesome".... so listen to as much video as you can on good speakers so you can hear the low end. And hear as many as you can live. A video on a computer usually doesn't cut it for what they really sound like. Many on the forums wil defend their own exhaust to the death. So you're going to get very opinionated answers.